How would you define a protest song?
I think it is a song which deals with political issues in a way that aligns itself with the underdog. I wanted to write about political songwriting in the broadest sense. There is no real set definition but this is the one that works for me.
What got you interested in this?
When I was a teenager and getting into politics, that was also when I discovered hip-hop. Also there were bands about like New Model Army and The Levellers, which are bands I haven’t really taken with me into adulthood but, at a time when I was thinking about politics, it was good that there were lots of bands reflecting that. For me they were a way of making politics seem like part of popular culture, and a part of my life as opposed to something distinct or dry or boring. Then it took me 15 years to realise that it might be something I could write a book about.
Let’s take a look at some of the books which helped you with your own, 33 Revolutions per Minute. Your first choice is David Margolick’s Strange Fruit.
Strange Fruit [first performed by Billie Holiday in 1939, condemning American racism] was the first time you had a really clear protest message in a song which was performed in nightclubs amid a set of songs which weren’t political.
How did audiences react to that?
Well, they were confronted with an issue that they maybe weren’t expecting. Before, there was a tradition that the folk singer Woody Guthrie represented – songs from the labour movement which started with the International Workers of the World. Those were songs that were very much designed to be sung by anybody. They were handed down not in records but in song books. They were basically propaganda. This song is art. So much is about the arrangement and the emotion in Billie Holiday’s performance. My interest in writing my book was what happens when protest meets pop music.
Presumably it reaches a more varied audience.
Yes, but it also creates more friction and complexity. Some people didn’t want that kind of message in their pop music. All the debates which animate the book start there.
And this particular book was instrumental in 33 Revolutions per Minute.
Yes, I read Strange Fruit when I was working on the proposal. I had heard about it before and it intrigued me because it is subtitled “the biography of a song”. And what I was trying to do was tell the story of a moment in history through each song. This book does it so well. It is such a brilliant, lean telling of that moment from lots of different angles. You get Billie Holiday’s biography, but also he interviewed a lot of people who had heard the song at the time, many of whom are now dead. Those interviews sparked so many ideas for me about the different perceptions and the ways people responded. You would expect them to be saying it was an amazing piece of art and a ground-breaking song, but actually lots of them felt it was very simplistic and not a very good piece of music. For some it ruined their Saturday nights, it wasn’t what they came out to hear.
There aren’t that many books which are about just one song, and show that the song is a pinhole through which you can see all these characters and issues. It was hugely influential and so thorough that I had to do quite a lot of other reading to make sure that all of my material about [the song] Strange Fruit didn’t come from this book. It is one of those books that you wish you hadn’t read because it is so good on its subject.
High praise indeed. Next up is Woody Guthrie: A Life by Joe Klein, a biography of America’s legendary folksinger activist.
There are other Woody Guthrie biographies, but this is written incredibly persuasively. Joe Klein is a very good storyteller. The fact that he has gone on to be a political correspondent for Time and also to write the novel Primary Colors shows just how good he is. It was invaluable research for my Woody Guthrie chapter.
But this book also became part of the history of protest songs itself. Bruce Springsteen got hold of a copy, and that really turned him onto the history of Woody Guthrie and made him want to deal more with politics and the idea of America in his own works. Springsteen responded very quickly to books. A lot of the time he would read a book or see a movie and then write a song inspired by it. He started covering Guthrie’s most famous song, This Land is Your Land. Springsteen’s Nebraska album owed a huge amount to this book because it introduced him to the history of the American left.
And he in turn went on to influence others through his songs.
Yes, and for me the book is just a really thrilling narrative, which made me realise how you could put political background into a personal story without it seeming like a big indigestible chunk.
Your next book moves away from America to Chile.
Dorian Lynskey is a music writer for the Guardian. He was Big Issue's music critic for three years and has freelanced for titles including Q, Word, Spin, Empire, Blender and The Observer. He is author of The Guardian Book of Playlists, a collection of his popular Readers Recommend columns for The Guardian. His latest book, 33 Revolutions Per Minute, looks at the history of protest songs