As an Egyptian, how do you feel about what is going on in your country at the moment?
I try to look at what’s happening now from a long-term perspective. From one angle you can take what is happening in Egypt and other parts of the Arab world as revolts or revolutions against oppressive regimes. That is one correct reading. But I think the bigger story is that you are seeing a generation of Arabs, who are very young, who feel they have inherited a succession of failures that they have not contributed to and yet are living their consequences. This generation now effectively reject these failures and is revolting against them.
Demographics are crucial here. In Egypt, for example, you have roughly 45 million people who are under 35 years old, which is about 60 per cent of the population. That demographic segment includes the youngest ever group of adolescents in Egypt’s history.
This generation is not working in isolation. They are supported by a very wide middle class. That is why I think what we are seeing now in the Arab world is a wonderful change: it’s not simply a matter of changing faces or presidents but it is effectively a revolution on the failures of the past 60 years. This theme will come out in some of my book choices.
Were you surprised when events start unfolding so fast in Egypt?
I was not surprised that the revolt happened. I actually expected it. I thought it would come from within the country’s major middle classes and would be led by young Egyptians. But what did surprise me was that it happened while President Mubarak was still in power. I think many people including myself thought a major change would happen when he was dead. He is nearly 83 years old. That it has happened while he is still alive and only months after we were talking about its likelihood, that was a surprise.
Let’s hear about your first choice, Albert Hourani’s A History of the Arab Peoples, which you see as a real contribution to the history of the people in the Middle East and North Africa – why?
One of the key reasons is in the title. It is called the peoples not people, which I thought was very interesting. Hourani redefined how people look at the history of that part of the world. Typically, throughout the late 19th and early 20th century the history of the Arab peoples was told either in terms of religion, mainly by recounting the story of Islam since the time of the Prophet Mohammed and until the fall of the Ottomans, or from the perspective of state development. For example, how the Egyptian state emerged.
What Hourani did was something very different. He emphasised that all these points are secondary to the most important one, which is the culture that unites the different people who live in this large piece of land. And he paid specific attention to the language: he saw it as a key denominator between the people who live in the space from Morocco to Bahrain. He focused on the development of the language and the culture as a whole. He traced the history of those people through their contributions to the culture that came to emerge over the past 14 centuries. There is lots of Islamic history and politics in Hourani’s book. But the key illuminating point is on how the culture that has emerged has gathered those people and really united them by a common thread.
The second point, which I thought was very interesting, was how he focused on Arabism as an identity, rather than on the flow of the different Islamic empires. We sometimes forget that the Christian Arabs constituted at one point more than 20 per cent of the people in that part of the world. And their contribution was immense. It’s also crucial to remember that the idea of Arabism pre-dates Islam. And what Hourani has done is to take the idea of Arabism and to link it with his focus on culture and basically put that mix as the framework through which you can understand the history of the people who live there. The book covers more than 1,300 years of history, so to do that without losing the focus on your thesis I thought was a great contribution.
And what kind of role do you think the Christians have in that part of the world today?
This is a very interesting point because if you look at the last 200 years, especially in places such as Egypt, Lebanon and Iraq, Arab Christians were at the forefront of social development in these countries. Arab Christians were key participants in the development of Arab liberalism at the end of the 19th and early 20th century. They played a big part in the development of education, journalism, and art, (whether cinema, theatre, literature, etc). But then the Arab liberal experiment was abruptly ended by the emergence of Arab nationalism. Gradually, the liberal values faded and were replaced by an antagonistic and sometimes pugnacious form of nationalism. And in the few decades that followed, political Islam started to gain significant ground across the Arab world. I discuss in my book in detail why these developments subtly but steadily eroded Christians’ involvement in their society.
Was there eventually less room for Christians in that new identity?
The interesting thing is that Arab nationalists, mainly Nasser, were very sensitive to the concerns of Egyptian and Levantine Christians but there was no escaping the fact that by promoting Arab nationalism you are throwing Egypt, for example, into the core of the Arabian hinterland, which for the past 14 centuries was ruled by Islam. And with the rise of Islamism throughout the 1970s and 1980s across the whole of the Arab world, Islam as an identity started to gain ground.
Tarek Osman is the author of Egypt on the Brink: From Nasser to Mubarak. He has published extensively on Egypt and the Middle East in leading UK, US and Continental European publications. His work has been cited widely, including in The Sunday Times, The Financial Times, The Guardian, Foreign Policy, Jerusalem Post, The Economist, and Singapore Straits. For the past 13 years, Tarek has covered and reported on Egypt for a UK publication, an international strategy consulting firm, and a number of institutional investment houses. He was educated at the American University in Cairo and Bocconi University in Milan. He lives in Cairo and London.